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Lousy rip-off of "Flight of the Intruder"
Great action sequences, technical details, but...It's clear the author has ample experience with flying, Navy jargon, and the military life. His careful descriptions allow the reader an interesting glimpse at the day to day life on an aircraft carrier. At the same time, this precision and careful wordcraft enters into the dialog, with not nearly so positive a result. With declaratives like "The colonel is a nice guy, and we had a cordial chat.", the reader finds great difficulty empathizing with and believing in the characters in the book.
Similarly, the expected intimate discussions between the protagonist and his love interest come across as stilted, formal, and difficult to comprehend. While seeing things from a female perspective is technically beyond this reviewer's experience, it seems that the attitude and reactions of said amorous companion occasionally depart farther from reality than could be easily accepted. For example, it seems she (and perhaps the author) is more concerned about our hero's perception of her father than his attitude and intentions toward her.
The least disturbing of these oddities is the slight tendency the author has to telegraph impending disaster. While not tragic, and probably not universally noticable, this reviewer occasionally felt mild disappointment that the surprise had been blunted by some sort of narrative drift that foreshadowed the events.
All that being said, "Rules of Engagement" has many things that can captivate the reader. The combat descriptions are excellent and exciting, and the plot developments keep the story flowing. Also, while the writing tends to be politically heavy-handed, it is not hard to sympathize with the pilots who put their lives at risk for trivial or non-existent strategic gain.
If you find enjoyment in cleverly written dialog and deep character development, you might steer clear of this one. On the other hand, if you like detailed aerial combat descriptions and realistic narrative of Vietnam era tactical operations, you'll find much to enjoy in "Rules of Engagement".
Another winner !

Great book!
The Greatest Vietnam Book for Young People!
Wow!

flaw research and inaccurate informationAccording two recently publish Communist books: "Hue, Spring 1968, Ban Nghien Cuu Dang[the Communist Party Research committee], Hue, 1988" and the "Tck-tkn [Generl offensive-General Uprising 1968, Ban Nghien Cuu Dang[the Communist Party Research committee], Ho Chi Minh City, 1988". The Nva/Vc troops in Hue consist of 4 full strength regiments: the E1, E5, E8, E9 and several battalions from the E6 regiment several sapper battalions (E is the NVA denote for regiment). Only the South Viets Hac Bao Company, most of who during the New Year was on leave, defended Hue. The Nva attacked on the first day of the Lunar New Year and quickly gain control of the city. After which they release 2,300 violent criminals from the city prison and armed them and the city VC sympathizers to form the "Nghia Quan"[Rightous Army]. In total the Nva/VC have around 9,000 to 10,000 troops in the city including the "Nghia Quan' criminals. On the second day of the New Year, the ARVN 1st Airborne Brigade consists of the 2nd and 6th battalions fought their way into Hue by way of An Hoa. They succeeded in getting into the city and later the ARVN 9th Airborne battalions; fresh from their victory at Quang tri also joined them. It's true that the S. Viets ask the Americans for help after the second week of battle but it was not due to S. Viets troops cowardice or low morale like the author tries to imply.
The ARVN who fought at Hue consists of the Airborne, then later the Marines, Rangers and the 1st Division, the best fighting force in Vietnam war. However, initially, the S. Viets leaders do not want the ncient city of Hue to be destroyed and forces the S. Viets and Americans to fight with little or no air and artillery support. This means the cost in retaking the city from 8,000 well-fortified enemies has to be done hand to hand. During the week of the battle, the S. Vietnamese 2nd and 7th battalions went from 500 men each down to only 200 men. The S. Viets 9th airborne battalion went from 400 men to only 100 men, the rest were killed and wounded. The S. Viets marines and ranger battalions that later came to join in the fight was fresh from the battles in Saigon without replacement and were all at or around half strengths. A typical S. Viet airborne battalion consists of 500 men, 800 men for the Vietnamese marine battalion and 450 men for the Vietnamese ranger battalion. The Nva/VC also lost a tremendous number of men and o both sides settle down to defensive and probing attacks. This also is true for the USMC since the US marines for the first two weeks or so, fought only during the day and then retreat to the MACV compound at night, this go on until sufficient troops and allies replacement have arrive. The battle for Hue was bloody and vicious, the S. Viet dead was twice that of the U.S marines, as for the Nva/VC most of their troops die during the battle for the city.
lack of total review during these time periods
Great History, Filled in the blanks for me...I was there!

Theory and Practice Divorced
Has its ups and downsVietnam War is certainly interesting and fairly persuasive, but it's
kind of useless. Spanos's general aim is to counter the liberal
humanist claim that Heidegger's Nazism destroys his credibility; he
does this by making a really big deal about the consistency of liberal
values with the Vietnam War.
Strictly speaking, I'd say Spanos has
some good points. He demonstrates some remarkable similarities between
the "benign" post-Cold War discourse of development and
democracy and the discourse of the Vietnam War. Spanos shows how the
notion that the only good Vietnam is a capitalist Vietnam cloaked the
War in a veil of moral necessity, and ultimately justified the massive
violence that was waged against the Vietnamese people.
But we
already knew that. What Spanos tries to do is pretend that this has
some radical implications that it really doesn't. First, he tries to
show that the Vietnam War demonstrates that the traditional veridical
understanding of truth is informed by some violent
will-to-power. Here, he miserably fails. While he treats Heidegger's
thought like a toolbox (with some useful tools and some less useful
tools) he insists on totalizing the history of Western thought into
one monolithic "ontotheological tradition" and then tries to
attribute all that is bad in the world to that tradition. The argument
he's making is pretty dumb, but he hides this by writing in
posthumanist blither in order to try to sound smart.
If you haven't
read Foucault, Derrida, and Heidegger fairly extensively (having read
some Spanos would also help), this book will totally go over your
head. Spanos is probably the worst writer there is. He speaks in the
technical vocabulary of post-Heideggerian philosophers and then backs
up his points with long block quotes that often do little to back up
his argument. The crux of his argument consists of one sentence in
which he explains the link between veridical discourse and
technological thinking, and it's a horrible disappointment. He spends
the entire book continually asserting that the Vietnam War was a
logical extension of liberal humanist values without really backing up
this claim.
I think Rorty is right and Spanos is wrong (although
Spanos claims that his work proves that Rorty's philosophy is too
short-sighted). If we take an antiessentialist view of the
ontotheological tradition (a view that Spanos was kind of enough to
take of Heidegger) we can see why certain liberal distinctions like
those between hard power and soft power would rescue liberalism from
Spanos's critique. Rorty realizes this, but Spanos is too caught up in
his own rhetoric to make the same realization.
For people trying to
better their knowledge of Foucault, don't look here. I personally
don't think Spanos ever read Foucault's analysis of the repressive
hypothesis, and I don't think Spanos tells us much about Foucault's
project that Foucault didn't already tell us himself. I guess this
book is OK as an extension of some of Heidegger's thought, but it's
pretty weak.
Spanos's book is really really ambitious, but it's kind
of stupid, honestly. I think Spanos should take a moment to reflect on
his thesis and see if he really thinks that the Vietnam War was a
really an ontological faceoff between the 'ontotheological tradition'
and the 'spectral obscurity of Nothing.'
There are some good
thoughts on Western literature. Read it if you like deconstruction. I
guess that's about all I can say.
difficult but superb exploration; beats hardt-negri's Empire

essential for Gulf War erudition
Shocking truth about a war the West should be ashamed of
An eye opener..not for those who sufer from blind patriotism

pricey propagandaThe book portrait the Americans as killers, it portrait all the S. Vietnamese as corrupt and whores - typical leftist stereotypes. What the book does not tell you is that the North Vietnamese were the biggest whores and most corrupt government in the world. On January 28,2002 L'express- the French leftist newspaper publish an article by Sylvaine Pasquier(go to lexpress.fr to see the full article), showing that in 1958 the North Vietnamese Communist gave the Spratley and Pearl islands off the coast of South Vietnam and near the Phillipines to China in exchange for Chinese support for the war. Also, in 1999 and 2000, the Vietnamese Communist sign a series of treaties giving China over 13,000 square Kilometers of land in North Vietnam and islands off South Vietnamin exchange for China support against a growing democracy movement in Vietnam. Yes, money to foreign government in exchange for help against the Vietnamese people. Never in the 5000 years history of Vietnam did this happen. Vietnam is a small country to give away thousands of square miles to another country so that they will have you retain absolute power is unforgivable. If Bush gave away 4000 square miles of land to Canada in exchange for campaign contribution, what would Americans think?
Vietnam Inc.Read the words and learn. Look at the pictures and cry!
Our country must never repeat this.
Essential For Anyone Interested In The Vietnam WarNo other book, by a single photographer, comes as close to capturing what Vietnam was like as this does.
He has produced a powerful, informative and compassionate work of photojournalism, that is as immediate today as when it was orignally published.


Herring focuses on diplomacyHerring also informs the reader that contrary to the current popular opinion, JFK was NOT going to get out of Vietnam because he chose to let the aggressive Henry Cabot Lodge make key decisions in escalating the United States' involvement in South Vietnam. The reader begins to understand that the US lost the war in the diplomatic and political theaters and not on the battlefield. After all, the US military's job was to keep communists from taking over South Vietnam and while US troops were deployed in the country, that objective never happened.
I highly recommend this book to anybody interested in the Vietnam conflict. Although there is no coverage on military engagements, troop life, or popular battles like Khe Sanh and Dienbienphu, this book will give the reader answers on why we were there and who was making the decisions on what we did in Southeast Asia.
Read the First Edition. Good, but needed North POV
This is the best introduction to the Vietnam War.

Great book for all those interested in Special Ops Aviation
Don't let factual errors deceive you, good stuff here!The GOOD is that the book does show how helicopters have been shot down/destroyed when they are unarmored like marine AH-1 Cobras were in Grenada (and still are today) or when they try to do something stupid like land in broad daylight on an enemy-held beach like marines directed USAF HH-53s to do on Koh Tang island in 1975 or when a marine pilot flew into a fuel-laden EC-130 at Desert One in 1980. The book also shows promise for the future with the AVPRO EXINT people pods which could make the useless for Close Air Support marine AV-8B Harrier II vertical take-off/landing jet (needs running take-off to carry decent bombload, burns fuel too fast to remain overhead to support friendly troops, fuel tanks and exhaust nozzles co-located, unarmored) play a vital role in downed pilot rescues---since the longer the delay, the more enemy troops converge around the man (or men) in jeopardy.
The book in the futures section is reminiscent of General David Grange's "Air-Mech-Strike" study group proposals since it depicts possible new rotary-wing V/STOL aircraft designs to get higher speeds like the stopped "X" rotor and canard wing.
If you read the book with a sharp eye to pinpoint factual errors there is more good here than there is bad to lead you astray; perhaps those that take V/STOL aircraft into combat with intelligence (not hubris) and unpredictable plans are not "damned" after all?
Great read on Special Operations

PROVIDED THE JOB IS DRINKINGI have read over a dozen books on Special Forces (all nonfiction) and James Watson's two books: Walking Point and Point Man were by far the worst. Forcing myself to finish this diatribe was far more painful than any training Watson endured to become a SEAL back in the days when you smoked between sneaking out of exercises. Basically it's a self-serving story profiling how chronic alcoholism increases delusions of grandeur and the self-glorification of an undisciplined wannabe tough guy. Not only was James Watson an unprofessional soldier but he tends to brag about it. A real man doesn't sucker punch a fellow soldier in a bar then give himself a pat on the back.
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Good look at the Vietnam war
the last reviewer is wrong...

The Aviators doesn¿t get off the groundThe action starts in Vietnam in 1963. Our hero is wounded in a bungled operation and returns to the U.S. to become an aide-de-camp for one year. During the year and change he distinguishes himself and falls for the widow of a friend. He and his CO also must establish the viability of airmobile infantry, demonstrating that army helicopter pilots can transfer large units. There is little action and the story line is predictable. Subplots are predictable as well.
In fairness to Griffin, I listened to an abridged audiotape and it might have been poorly abridged. However, I didn't get the sense that there was an awful lot here to begin with. Gerald McRaney's clipped reading doesn't help it either.
"General Hospital" in Army green
Great War Story
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WHY THIS IS THE WORST BOOK ON THE VN AIR WAR: I gave this novel the benefit of the doubt, even though it quickly proved itself to be no better than an over-glorified and under-inspired rip-off of the far superior "Flight of the Intruder". The more enjoyable characters and irony of that other book made it the best novel of its genre. "Rules" goes wrong where "Intruder" got it right, taking a heavy-handed stand on the ROE (they deserve their bad rap, but Steve Coonts wasn't afraid to see the issue from both sides), while not going into great depth about the mechanics of his hero's machine of choice - the F-4. Next to Jake Grafton, Brad Austin is as lively as an action figure - Weber unwilling to give him any of the flaws or introspection that made Jake Grafton so believable, while Austin's back-seater remains a captive passenger and nowhere near the equal of "Tiger" Cole. Even the promising idea of having Austin romance the daughter of an anti-war fixture goes nowhere. (I kept waiting for the unhappy dad to tell Austin how he disapproves of his daughter's dating a guy who may get shot down, leaving the poor girl to wonder for years whether he was dead or rotting in a tiger-cage.) Instead, Weber loads us down with details that don't do anything to substantiate the plot. Austin is a maverick of his family because he chose to fly for the Marines instead of the Navy, a plot twist that's supposed to establish him as a rebel, even though it has him flying the same planes from Navy ships like a Naval Aviator, and facing much of the same challenges. Even the climactic flight, the one that will break the rules, is a cheat. While books like these don't mind chiding wartime planners for choosing a strategy that has nothing to do with winning the war, "Rules" easily settles on an epic dogfight against the shadowy Communist ace, one whose result won't have the least effect down on the ground where the war was grinding its way through an entire generation of 19 year olders. Coonts at least chose a target his characters felt was attached to the war's larger purpose (the Communist party HQ) and didn't mind using a plane a whole lot less sexy than the F-4's in "Rules". If you must read a Weber novel, read the sequel: "Target of Opportunity", also an uninspired novel, but one with amore original plot.