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A World of Hurt.....
Memories, nightmares, and remembrance
A World of Hurt

EVENING OF PALE SUNSHINE by Ken MillerAN ENEMY SPY TO HELP HIM WITH THE RESCUE...KEN MILLER IS A POTENT WRITER. HE IS A TALENTED WORDSMITH AND DRAWS ON A LIFETIME OF TRAVEL AND EXPERIENCES. DON'T MISS THIS ONE. NOT A MAN'S BOOK, NOT A WOMEN'S BOOK, BUT A BOOK THAT EVERYONE WILL ENJOY. I COULDN'T PUT IT DOWN. I LOVED AND LIVED THE ENTIRE STORY.
Great Evening
Evening of Pale Sunshine

A compelling look inside the Vietnam WarWhile this is a work of fiction the historical facts woven throughout the story really bring the characters to life. This realistic book was a thoroughly enjoyable read that gave me insights into the events leading up to and including the war itself that I had not even considered before.
I highly recommend this book to anyone who is even remotely interested in the Vietnam War! You will come away with a much deeper understanding of the conflict and respect for those individuals and their families who were directly involved. Great stuff!
The Last HookersCarle clearly separates a bad war from the good warriors who faught it. The Last Hookers suggest a much more positive view of not just the outcome of the war, but also of American morale, competence, and performance. A must read.
Ex Hooker, (Recovery)
The Last Hookers

Very Good OverviewThe treatment he gave to the major battles was good. He presented an easy to follow account of the battle, what lead up to it and the outcome. He also touched on some of what was happening back home with the politics, but only briefly. I think the most interesting parts of the book for me was the details of the air war, more specifically how the bombing kept escalating and then the final bombing push by Nixon. My only complaint with the book is that it was an overview that was a bit too light on the facts for me. The book was only 270 pages long, and book size do not necessary determine quality, this book could have been a little bit more in-depth. It seemed to me that to get a better understanding a few more pages could have been added without the overview turning into a in depth study.
The best and most comprehensive book on the Vietnam War
Excellent account of the political problems in vietnam!

Great Book ! ! !I also highly reccomend the books by the Lurps he flew: Linderer, Chambers, Burford (?), and others.
Excellent Story, Excellent Book
Wings of the Eagle : A Kingsmen's Story

ChickenhawkBob Mason's transformation from eager pilot trainee to jaded combat veteran/burnout, while probably not anymore remarkable a story than any other pilot's is well written and that is what makes it great! After reading the book I felt as though I know Bob Mason. Not a bad thing.
When Mason describes the deck inside the chopper,covered in blood you can almost smell it.
Serious life and death stuff with some of the funniest stories of human screw ups wrapped up in a truly memorable account of one
helluva chopper pilots' experience in Vietnam.
It's like I say:" 'Chickenhawk' is the best damn war movie they never made!"
Still great after 15 years!
A response to the Kirkus Review of this book.The Kirkus Review makes it sound as though this book is dull, and belittles the significance of Mason's incarceration and his description of the way Chickenhawk was recieved by the public. Personally, I thought Mason's imprisonment was conveyed in a style reminiscent of Henri Charrier's Papillon, another of my favorites.
The point is, it is impossible to fully understand or appreciate Chickenhawk as a description of the Vietnam Experience without reading this book. If you liked Chickenhawk, this is a must-read.


One of the best books on SEA air combatOne interesting point is this: even though both the USAF and the USN flew the F-4 Phantom, the Navy missiles wouldn't work on the USAF planes because of a difference in the launch rails. The problem was in the way that the Sidewinder seeker was cooled prior to launch. The Navy took one approach to solve the problem and the USAF took another. The Navy did indeed have a better missile, and when one USAF wing commander demanded that he be supplied with Navy Sidewinders for air-to-air combat, he was severely disappointed to find out that he couldn't have them due to disparate technologies.
This isn't a "There I was at 20,000 feet.." type of book. Its more of a "Oyster Flight was on BarCap at 20,000 feet on Route Package VI when Red Crown vectored them to a pair of MiG-21s launching from Phuc Yen..." type of book. Still, it is very exciting reading for avaition enthusiasts and air combat students. There is a careful analysis of each engagement and diagrams are included to illustrate typical strike formations and ECM coverage zones. Very well done.
Good on the "bad guys" as well.
"Clashes" - an engrossing chronicleThis book explodes the notion that U.S. pilots' woes over the skies of Vietnam stemmed from political meddling from Washington. Such meddling existed and caused confusion, but Mitchel demonstrates that the big problems were of the military's own making:
* Poor weapons. The story of the sad performance of the Vietnam War era Sidewinder and Sparrow air-to-air missiles is well known. Mitchel's depiction of these failures in scores of air-to-air encounters makes a poignant effect of the reader. * Insufficient training. To meet manpower requirements, the Air Force, according to Mitchel, cut back on air-to-air training and lowered standards. * Improper tactics. Mitchel takes the Air Force to task for clinging to the "fluid four" fighter formation, even in the face of evidence that this formation put U.S. pilots at a severe tactical disadvantage. The Navy's "loose deuce" fighter formation was rejected...because it was a Navy fighter formation.
Such a short summary does "Clashes" an injustice. Like other good military histories, this book leaves the reader convinced that courage and suppleness of mind and body are a warrior's most important weapons. I recommend "Clashes" to fellow military history buffs. My one "picknit" is that Mitchel does not identify the pilots in the numerous air-to-air encounters by name.


"Grief Denied: A Vietnam Widow's Story"
A Must Read
Courageous and long overdue

An historical account of the defense of a Vietnamese village
Gripping. Action-packed. Top-five book on the Vietnam War.This book tells the story of a village and the marines and militia who defended it during the Vietnam War. It is filled with first hand accounts of fast paced fire-fights and battalion-sized battles. The action is riveting, and the story is endearing and heart-wrenching. A squad of marines and platoon of PF militia men fight night-after-night against local guerillas, and at times, VC main force battalions. The Americans become members of the village, eat in families' homes, play with their children, attend weddings, funerals, and holiday festivities. Their emotional ties hearten them, motivate them, and ultimately betray them.
The book was written by Francis J. West, a marine officer and RAND Corporation researcher sent to the village in the late 1960's to study its marine defenders. The marine squad -- seldom numbering more than a dozen -- was known throughout the Marine Corps. It encountered communist units more often than any other unit in the Corps; its members often fought twenty to thirty engagements a month, more than most U.S. battalions.
I've recommended this book to several men in the military, including my brother, a captian in the 10th SF group. All of them, in turn, recommended it to their friends, commanders, and subordinates.
"The Village" is as good as "Bravo Two Zero," "A Bright Shining Lie," and "We Were Soldiers Once, and Young." You won't put this book down until you're finished, and then, you'll read it again and again and give copies to your friends for Christmas.
One of the best first-hand accounts of the war ever written

A MARGINAL UNITJune 26, 1968 Page 39 "We left the perimeter at first light, going out through the east gate of Camp Eagle...Our mission was to patrol the eastern half of the AO, avoiding civilian contact, and look for anything out of the ordinary...
Intelligence had reported occasional VC activity in the hamlet.
VC tax collectors and supply parties often traveled the trails in the AO at night."
From Linderer's book. "We spent the evening drinking and getting totally blown away. We raised alot of hell, and I guess I probably overdid it with the war stories. They must have been impressed, because most offered their sisters to me before the night was over. Audie Murphy didn't have a thing on me. Well, how were you suppose to act around air force personnel?"
ON ALL OF GARY A. LINDERER'S BOOKS:
"Gary A. Linderer is the publisher of 'Behind the Lines,' a magazine that specializes in U.S. military special operations. In Vietnam, he earned two Silver Stars, the Bronze Star with V devise (for Valor), the Army Commendation Medal with V devise, and two Purple Hearts. His first two books were selected by the Military Book Club."
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National Personnel Records Center Military Personnel Records
9700 Page Avenue, St. Louis, Missouri 63132-5100
OFFICIAL LIST OF AWARDS The Official Military Records of GARY A. LINDERER (SSN removed) show that he is authorized the following awards and decorations for his service in the US Army:
SILVER STAR
BRONZE STAR MEDAL W/FIRST OAK LEAF CLUSTER AND "V" ARMY COMMENDATION MEDAL
W/FIRST OAK LEAF CLUSTER AIR MEDAL
GOOD CONDUCT MEDAL NATIONAL DEFENSE
SERVICE MEDAL
VIETNAM SERVICE MEDAL W/4 BRONZE SERVICE STARS
COMBAT INFANTRYMAN BADGE
REPUBLIC OF VIETNAM CAMPAIGN RIBBON W/DEVICE (1960)
REPUBLIC OF VIETNAM GALLANTRY CROSS W/PALM UNIT CITATION BADGE SHARPSHOOTER
BADGE W/RIFLE & MACHINE GUN BARS EXPERT BADGE W/AUTO RIFLE BAR
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R. L. HINDMAN,
Director
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From the United States National Archives: DA 1594 DAILY STAFF
JOURNAL OR DUTY OFFICER'S LOG. These are the contemporaneous,
unbiased, official radio reports from units in the field using
the US Army "SALUTE" reporting system. SIZE of the enemy, ACTIVITY
of the enemy, LOCATION, UNIT, TIME, and ESTIMATED strength.
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G-2 & G-3 Section 101st Abn. Div. Camp Eagle YD808162
20 Nov. 1968
delayed entry: 1000H (C) G2 recd msg fr 1st Bde stating: At 2400H to 0400H vic An Nong Village YD918093 & An Nong 3 YD933106 in Loc Bon village, info came in from village chief to A Co that 30 VC last night came through loc above. Primary purpose was to collect money, but would eccept rice instead. They came from south and returned south.
1200H (C) G2 recd msg 2d Bde stating: At 1130 H vic YC829900 LRP TM #24 ambushed est enemy sqaud (reinf) moving E on trail at YC 829900. Appartently rice carrying detail, for only two were VC were armed. En appeared to have been heading towards hill # 512 at YC 8490. Res: 9 VC KIA, 2x 45 pistols CIA. Note: 8 VC were killed outright, one was captured but was seriously wounded. This VC later died after attempt to evac him was made. No friendly cas. 1220H (C) G2 recd msg fr 2/17 stating: At 1124H vic YC8490 LRP Tm #24 amb 9 VC, 5 women & 4 men. LRP Tm believes VC were porters. Res: 5 female KIA BC, 4 VC male KIA BC, 2 x US 45 Cal pistols. VC were moving towards Hill 513 YC8490.
Item no. 11 - 0945 hours (C) G2 recd msg fr 2d Bde stating: At 0530H vic YC829901 2/501 LRRP Tm #24 fnd fresh footprints made by sandels. Heading 340° NW from loc. More to follow.
Item 17 - 1200H (C) recd msg fr 2d Bde stating: At 1130H vic YC829900 LRP Tm # 24 ambushed est enemy sqaud (reinf) moving E on trail at YC829900. Apparently was a rice carrying detail, for ony two VC were armed. En appeared to have been heading toward hill # 512 at YC8490. Res: 9 VC KIA, 2 x 24 pistols CIA. Note: 8 VC were killed outright, one was captured but was seriously wounded. This VC later died after an attempt to evac him was made. No friendly cas.
Item 18 - 1220H (C) G2 recd mes fr 2/17 Cav stating: At 11245H vic YC8490 LRP Tm # 24 amb (ambushed) 9 VC, 5 women & 4 men. LRP Tm believed VC were porters. Res: 5 VC female KIA, 4 Male KIA BC. 2 x US 45 Cal pistols. VC were moving towards Hill 513 YC
8490. Neg US cas.
Item 33 - 1620H (C) G3 recd mes fr 2/17 Cav stating: 2/17 (C) reports LRRPs in RZ Brenda are in heavy contact, 9 cas. Request 1 Co RRF. 1st Bde will supply the company - A/2/502. Insertion controlled by credit 4.
Item 36 - 1645 H (C) recd msg fr 2d Bde, at 1620H, vic YC839880, LRP Tm 24 made contact w/unk size force. Res: 2 US KHA, 8 WIA. A complete report will be turned in tonight.
Item 48 - 2043H (C) G3 recd msg fr 2/17 Cav, LRP medevac completed 1830H, C/ARP ext fr contact site 1920H, shuttle to Brick has not been closed.
Item 51 - 2130 H (C) G2 recd msg fr 2/17, total 3 KHA, 21 WHA (8 serious, 13 minor), all cas fr LRP Co except 8 WIA fr ARP. One Kit CASON was WHA (minor) not included in 21 WHA.
SUMMARY: A LRP tm of F/58 Inf ambushed ten en [enemy] moving N on trail vic [vicinity] YC839887. The res [results] were eight enemy KIA and two wpns [weapons] capt [captured]. In subsequent encounter w/a [with a] reinforced enemy squad, the team killed on addtional en [enemy] in the same area.
Signed and notarized by LTC Jim I. Hunt G-2.
CID was rightJune 26, 1968 Page 39
"We left the perimeter at first light, going out through the east gate of Camp Eagle...Our mission was to patrol the eastern half of the AO, avoiding civilian contact, and look for anything out of the ordinary... Intelligence had reported occasional VC activity in the hamlet. VC tax collectors and supply parties often traveled the trails in the AO at night."
From Linderer's book. "We spent the evening drinking and getting totally blown away. We raised alot of hell, and I guess I probably overdid it with the war stories. They must have been impressed, because most offered their sisters to me before the night was over. Audie Murphy didn't have a thing on me. Well, how were you suppose to act around air force personnel?"
And on the night of 19/20 Nov. 1968 they allowed the 30 local VC to pass through their ambush site. NOT MY IDEA OF WHAT RANGERS WERE AND ARE ABOUT. THIS BOOK IS A FRAUD ON THE PUBLIC!
Oh what a tangled web we weave...No way. This book is a faberication of the vivid memories of what they could have been, should have been, but are now rewritting history to make themselves into heroes. My heroes are not these con-artists.
PREFACE
"This book is a nonfiction work based on my experiences in Vietnam. Based on 238 letters..."subsequent information and verification of people, places and events described in my letters were collected... Historically accurate."
June 26, 1968
Page 39
"We left the perimeter at first light, going out through the east gate of Camp Eagle...Our mission was to patrol the eastern half of the AO, avoiding civilian contact, and look for anything out of the ordinary... Intelligence had reported occasional VC activity in the hamlet. VC tax collectors and supply parties often traveled the trails in the AO at night."
This is a great set up. Because Lurps in Vietnam were trained to ambush the VC at night in MACV Recondo School. Gary Linderer was there in Vietnam as a PFC. He never attended MACV Recondo School taught by the Special Forces. Reading the contemporaneous, non-biased, no agenda, U.S. National Archive records give a clearer more accurate depiction of what was real versus what Gary Linderer and others have conspired to twist into a war tales making heroes out of themselves. The bigger the tale the bigger the sale. It is the truth and the history that is lost in these cheap pocketbook, so-called, nonfiction books that have "NOT" been fact-checked by the publisher. This book, and others, clearly had tragic effects on the author. Mr. Linderer who invents well spun tales or fcition and lies in his writings. On the face of it, it might appear that maintaining a running fabrication would be harder. Psychologically speaking, "Oh what a tangled web we weave, when we fabricate, lie, trick and deceive." A made up war story, such as this, allows one to construct a reality that takes the mind where the truth does not exist. Because lying in books about one's military awards and medals and then telling whopping war stories about made up combat scenes the author becomes a "truth-concealing liar." This tormented lie the author must live on a daily bases does exact a toll and leads to a strain of emotional consequences that effect the mind and the body. Poor physical and mental health, in essence.
From Gary Linderer's book: Page 10 - "The fact that we had killed over two hundred NVA, including the executive officer of the NVA 5th Regiment did not lesson his grief." THIS NEVER HAPPENED! (SEE BELOW NATIONAL ARCHIVE RECORDS). The team allowed the VC to walk through them the night of 19/20 Nov. 1968 and the author says the VC were too well-armed and at the ready. DROOL!!! This was the target!! From the National Archives: Delayed entry 19 Nov. 1968: 1000H (C) G2 recd msg fr 1st Bde stating: At 2400H to 0400H vic An Nong Village YD918093 & An Nong 3 YD933106 in Loc Bon village, info came in from village chief to A Co that 30 VC last night came through loc above. Primary purpose was to collect money, but would eccept rice instead. They came from south and returned south.
From Linderer's book on page 11- "My first full day back with F Company was occupied with replacing the weapon and all the gear and equipment I had lost November 20. I had to start from scratch replacing my LBE (load-bearing equipment) and my rucksack and pack frame." FROM THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES: G-2 & G-3 101st Abn. Div CAMP EAGLE DATE 23 Nov. 1968. 1429 hours (C) G-2 recd msg fr 2d Bde stating: At 1325H vic YC83888 D/2/501 1st plt at 1240H fnd 8 bodies: 7 x VC, 1 NVA, 4 pairs of PJ, 20 lbs of rice, 1 kettle, equipment left by LRPS: 1 x WP gernade, 1 x bottle of whole blood, LRP rations, poncho liner, 6 x US rucksacks, 1 x sewing kit and 5x claymore. Note: The 8 x VC were previously reported.
Mr. Linderer, in effect, he is saying that he left his rucksack in the field of battle. If there were hundreds and hundreds of hard-core NVA they most certainly would have taken this valuable equipment that was left in the field for three days. These men simply ambushed a "rice porter detail" and later had a VC shoot at them. They failed their mission by not ambushing the VC that passed by them the night before. Mr. Linderer was, at that time, like the rest of the team members under the disillusions of "Short Timer's Anxiety." In mid-1968 the Vietnam War was not at all the way these men re wrote it. Fraggings, yes. Not wanting to go out to the field and face combat, yes. Heroes, I don't think so. Vietnam in mid-1968 was a medal frenzy for ticket punchers and those wanting to impress loved ones at home that they were saints and heroes. Not so, according to the national archives.
Page 14 - "The Cav (2/17 Cav) really didn't have a lot of use for LRPs, and we reciprocated their feelings, especially after their reaction team's heroic actions November 20 (when they cowered on the LZ while our fellow LRPs charged to our rescue)."
From the National Archives: 1200H (C) recd msg fr 2d Bde stating: At 1130H vic YC829900 LRP Tm # 24 ambushed est enemy sqaud (reinf) moving E on trail at YC829900. Apparently was a rice carrying detail, for ony two VC were armed. En appeared to have been heading toward hill # 512 at YC8490. Res: 9 VC KIA, 2 x 24 pistols CIA. Note: 8 VC were killed outright, one was captured but was seriously wounded. This VC later died after an attempt to evac him was made. No friendly cas. (C) G2 recd mes fr 2/17 Cav stating: At 11245H vic YC8490 LRP Tm # 24 amb (ambushed) 9 VC, 5 women & 4 men. LRP Tm believed VC were porters. Res: 5 VC female KIA, 4 Male KIA BC. 2 x US 45 Cal pistols. VC were moving towards Hill 513 YC8490. Neg US cas. (C) G3 recd mes fr 2/17 Cav stating: 2/17 (C) reports LRRPs in RZ Brenda are in heavy contact, 9 cas. Request 1 Co RRF. 1st Bde will supply the company - A/2/502. Insertion controlled by credit 4. 1645 H (C) recd msg fr 2d Bde, at 1620H, vic YC839880, LRP Tm 24 made contact w/unk size force. Res: 2 US KHA, 8 WIA. A complete report will be turned in tonight. 2043H (C) G 3 recd msg fr 2/17 Cav, LRP medevac completed 1830H, C/ARP ext fr contact site 1920H, shuttle to Brick has not been closed. 2130 H (C) G2 recd msg fr 2/17, total 3 KHA, 21 WHA (8 serious, 13 minor), all cas fr LRP Co except 8 WIA fr ARP. One Kit CASON was WHA (minor) not included in 21 WHA. SUMMARY: A LRP tm of F/58 Inf ambushed ten en [enemy] moving N on trail vic [vicinity] YC839887. The res were eight enemy KIA and two wpns [weapons] capt [captured]. In subsequent encounter w/a reinforced enemy squad, the team killed on addtional en [enemy] in the same area.
On all of Gary Linderer's book covers: "Gary A. Linderer is the publisher of 'Behind the Lines,' a magazine that specializes in U.S. military special operations. In Vietnam, he earned two Silver Stars, the Bronze Star with V devise (for Valor), the Army Commendation Medal with V de vise, and two Purple Hearts. His first two books were selected by the Military Book Club."
From the National Personnel Records Center Military Personnel Records 9700 Page Avenue, St. Louis, Missouri 63132-5100 OFFICIAL LIST OF AWARDS The Official Military Records of GARY A. LINDERER (SSN removed) show that he is authorized the following awards and decorations for his service in the US Army:
SILVER STAR
BRONZE STAR MEDAL W/FIRST OAK LEAF CLUSTER AND "V" ARMY COMMENDATION MEDAL
W/FIRST OAK LEAF CLUSTER AIR MEDAL
GOOD CONDUCT MEDAL NATIONAL DEFENSE
SERVICE MEDAL
VIETNAM SERVICE MEDAL W/4 BRONZE SERVICE STARS
COMBAT INFANTRYMAN BADGE
REPUBLIC OF VIETNAM CAMPAIGN RIBBON W/DEVICE (1960)
REPUBLIC OF VIETNAM GALLANTRY CROSS W/PALM UNIT CITATION BADGE SHARPSHOOTER
BADGE W/RIFLE & MACHINE GUN BARS EXPERT BADGE W/AUTO RIFLE BAR
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R. L. HINDMAN,
Director
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